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Read ECDHE traffic with Wireshark or the like

Nacionarte

1/25/23, 12:04 PM

There is some https traffic from a specific server (which I have the certificate and private key) that I need legitimately be able to read.

This traffic doesn’t come via browser so besides the ephemeral protocol being used using a pre-master secret key is not an option.

Is there any way it is possible to decrypt and analyze the traffic without downgrading the cypher suite to some deprecated RSA non ephemeral one?

Ideally using wireshark, but open to something else as well.

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Vadym Fedyukovych

1/25/23, 12:30 PM

So what kind of "legitimacy" it is?

Nacionarte

1/25/23, 12:54 PM

Legitimacy meaning we have done tests with http and now https testing is needed so we need to be able to read the traffic. The other side ask for it and provided us the certificate and private key.

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Crypto

Daniel S

1/25/23, 2:02 PM

There's nothing that you can do from a purely passive point of view. The private information relating to the certificate does not directly provide any information about the ephemeral keys used in the ECDHE exchange. This is part of the promise of forward security that ephemeral schemes provide.

You can actively set up a man-in-the-middle gateway that intercepts all incoming requests and responds to the handshake as the server would (using the certificate and private keys). You can then set up your own connection with the server and relay information between client and server. The this would then provide you with access to all of the decrypted information.

Note that this advice is purely technical. There may be legal restrictions according to your jurisdiction and obviously you are beholden to your own ethical code as to whether this is appropriate handling of information.

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Nacionarte

1/25/23, 2:43 PM

Thanks for the information Daniel. Can you point me as to how to actively set up the Mitm gw? This is work, nothing ilegal here; it is just I’m the person assigned to accomplish this task. The client asked for this and it is already informed of the implications of a infrastructure of this kind.

Nacionarte

1/25/23, 2:52 PM

Currently RTFM SSLsplit as my hopes of doing it with wireshark are done. Open to suggestions about the most simple way of accomplish this tasks.

Daniel S

1/25/23, 8:41 PM

A quick google threw up this website: https://mitmproxy.org I have no experience of this product nor this vendor.

fgrieu

1/26/23, 5:44 PM

Addition: an alternative to an active MitM attack is to instrument the software at one of the end to output something that should otherwise remain secret, therefore allowing decryption of a passive intercept. If interested in the DHE exchange, that can be the private ephemeral secret generated by that software. If interested only in later data, that can be the shared secret before or even after it goes thru the KDF.

Nacionarte

2/7/23, 12:57 PM

Thanks fgrieu. It looks this the way will follow. Thankyou.

Elon Musk

I sit in a Tesla and translated this thread with Ai:

EN: Read ECDHE traffic with Wireshark or the like

TH: อ่านการรับส่งข้อมูล ECDHE ด้วย Wireshark หรือสิ่งที่คล้ายกัน

RO: Citiți traficul ECDHE cu Wireshark sau altele asemenea

RU: Чтение трафика ECDHE с помощью Wireshark или подобного

VI: Đọc lưu lượng ECDHE bằng Wireshark hoặc tương tự

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