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Gnome-boxes: under Ubuntu 21.04 no vm listed in birds

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Fresh installation of Ubuntu 21.04 I’ve created a bunch of vm with gnome-boxes The files are indeed in my userspace but when I run virsh wether it’s in the userspace or with sudo nothing comes up… The list is empty. If I try to manually edit the file in my userspace for the xml configuration, it gets overwritten each time by boxes. Under which user is it working so that I can use virsh as I can in older Ubuntu version or other distorts ?

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