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how to stop gsd-screensaver from running in ubuntu 22 LTS

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I'm running Ubuntu 22 LTS

I'm trying to get my xscreensaver-systemd process to run but I get the following error:

"xscreensaver-systemd: 20:07:40: failed to connect as org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver: File exists"

This is because gsd-screensaver is running. If I kill this process then I can start xscreensaver-systemd successfully.

Is there a way to stop gsd-screensaver from starting?
Maybe in gsettings directly somehow?

I've turn off screen-blanking in settings->power->screen-blanking.

xscreensaver runs fine.
just the xscreensaver-systemd process does not start because of the gsd process.

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